Ain’t Nothing But A Vibe
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Welcome to Ain't Nothing But a Vibe. This is your host, Blake Vini, today. And I'm here with a very special guest. This is a person that's been in my life when I was at a really low point. I mean, a really fucking low point. Probably the lowest point I've ever been in my life. This was back when I was like 18 years old. I was homeless out in the street. Met this dude right here.
SPEAKER_00It's Caleb with my boy Blake today, you know? Going to talk about some things, man. Talk about his life.
SPEAKER_01So you want to tell him how like you first saw me, like how like we first really introduced each other to itself. Because like we knew each other. We went to school together. Yeah. And Pich, we had it where like we would see each other in the hallway. I think like I saw you on the school bus once. Yeah. I told you about the time I got stabbed, I think. Yeah, how I had like a score on my leg and shit. And then like after that, like I was seeing you in the hallway. I'll say what up, but I didn't really know you until I saw you out one day when you I want you to say, because like it was.
SPEAKER_00You was in the McDonald's parking lot, bro. I was just literally it's crazy coincidence, man. I was just walking, I forgot who I was. I think I was with my other buddy, Blake Shiffler. But we was just walking down the road, man. Pulled up to the caboose in Elkton, a little train there. And I'm just walking up, and I just see this dude in the car, man, and I walk up. You know, me being nosy, a nosy teenager and shit. Just walk up. I seen you. I was like, yo, what the hell you doing, bro? You know what I'm saying? And we we clicked up like that. And then we seen this other dude, met this other guy named Zach, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_01He uh fucking fucking shit, bro. And then when I saw you at the train station, so it's like pretty much like I even got to become homeless in the first place before I even got to the train station. I pretty much got kicked out of my mother's right around in like March because like I was skipping school. Like I was AB honor. Like I was I'm passing all my classes. I just didn't want to go to my extra ones. Like I just wanted to be able to like graduate early, be able to do whatever, be able to chill. But my mom didn't like that because also I had people over and I was partying. And I mean when I par I used to fucking get cuckoo bananas, bro. Like I was fucking lit as hell for a long little time when I was younger, bro. Like I used to get into such bullshit every extent to the T. I was fucking stupid, really stupid. And I mean when I was at the moment, like when I saw him before like when I after I got kicked out, like I was like with my garbage bags out on the street, pretty much having it where I was carrying my clothes out. Yeah, a lot was fucking like I had to go to my grandmother's in Louray. Seen a whole car full of clothes. Yeah, pretty much I had to be able to have it where I would do my classes and packing classes because I didn't want to do my normal classes anymore to be able to graduate early because I didn't have really like transportation because I was actually in a different district. So my dad would drive to work every single day, working 12-hour shifts, and I would pretty much just like go with him in the morning, pretty much go to school pretty much from like eight to three, and then after that wait until he gets off work at seven, pick him up, we go back home, do the same routine, did that for like two weeks, and pretty much had it where I was like, oh my god, bro, like I bet about to graduate. I had no clue what I was about to do. I had my license at the time, but I didn't have no car. I was living in a shack, like I had fucking living like my grandmother and my brother and my dad. Sh like we would have fucking stuff like crawling on us and stuff. It was terrible, bro. Dripping and shit. And it's not even saying nothing against my grandmother. It's just because she lives in like a kind of like older house, so it's like that's a depth. What comes with it? So after fucking me doing that for like about two, three weeks, I finally graduated. Finally got done with the packing classes, pretty much had it where I'm like, alright, bet same day I graduated high school, the Zach, the same, same, same day, two hours after you flipped the truck and yeah, my friend that I took a charge for. I'm not saying like a charge charge, I'm talking like a record driving, but I took a charge for somebody. Oh, I took two. And we're gonna talk about the other one in a little bit because it relates to this. Talk about Zach. Fucking home. Yeah, so fucking this dude. Man, I took a charge for it. Like, we pretty much like we had a lot in the car, we fucking wild it. We pretty much he had I was like, hey yo, bro, take the shit. Like it's it was my fault because I allowed him to take the I told I allowed him to take responsibility of the car, like beyond just like him just driving, like telling us where to go and all that shit. That was not a good idea. We were pretty and we were behind the literally behind this high school, and pretty much I was fucking with me, him, and like another big dude, and then other dude that was on his side. And pretty much we were pretty much having it where we had it where we were trying to go to like drift a turn behind a place called Pussy Tree. And pretty much had it where Yeah, place called Yeah, that's how the fucking country. Yeah, right behind the high school.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we all feed that.
SPEAKER_01Just so y'all, you know to have context of how like crazy this shit really is. And then like literally, it was right around like railroad tracks and grab we had gravel, and we he kept on trying to like skirt the turn. And then right when we got to the railroad tracks, we we fucking flipped three times in the air, and it was like holy shit. Like, I'm like the car, the truck was total.
SPEAKER_00And so y'all know they was they was all a little messed up. They may have not shown it, but my other buddy Tyler went another good friend of mine, he was in that, he was in that uh wreck too, and uh he had like a two, I think it was like a two-inch gas.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and his shit, bro, his shit was fucked up, and like I remember like the other homie, he fucked up his wrist. I think he broke his arm.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, Calvin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, that was a I know, bro. That was the only one I there's not something to laugh about that shit, but I'm like, no. That shit was crazy. So pretty much had it where after that, you took a charge.
SPEAKER_00I took a charge for it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, and I had to pay for all the court fees. It was like a ban in court fees, it was like a whole bunch. And I was like, Yeah, but I ain't going back home. Got all my shit. I had my one friend, he came pick me up, pretty much had it where he was like, he let me use his car to go sleep in because he was homeless too. But he had a girlfriend where he can pretty much stay at her crib, and I was allowed to sleep in the car. So like I would drive the car around. That's why I was in McDonald's parking. And this is how I met him. So after meeting him, what did we do? You want to tell him what we did, bro?
SPEAKER_00It's literally, bro, it's just so crazy because like walked up, it's like, yo, what you doing, bro? We recognized each other and shit. We started chopping it up, and then uh there was this that dude, Zach, we was talking about just a little bit ago. He was sitting at this little table that they got they got right in front of the caboose, and uh what's it called? Like he just we didn't even acknowledge him or like say anything to him. He just walked up and was like, yo, what's up, man? What like what's y'all's name? We started talking to him and he's telling us like all this crazy shit, how he broke out of a group home and he stole a van and he's been on the run ever since, and he just like somehow like I think he said he got dropped, like he they dished the van, the other dude got caught and he got dropped off in Elkd. Didn't he say some shit like that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I don't know. It's hard to believe. Yeah, I mean, bro, this this alright. First off, I'm gonna say this too. This nigga was a fucking meth head, bro. He was twacked out, he was quacked the fuck out. And this he's the kind of person that if looking back, if you would have saw him and then you would see, like, why would y'all listen to him? It was alright, I knew not to listen to this nigga. But I was young, so but he was that's all I'm saying. I was staying at this nigga's crazy.
SPEAKER_00He's telling me all these things, you know. We was going in the stores, stealing a bunch of shit, stealing stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, that's what I was saying. We were fucking.
SPEAKER_00We would just walk in there with backpacks and literally just and plus the chick that worked there, I knew she was my homeboy's stepmom that passed away, which his name was, you know, Etzel, R.P. Etzel, really good friend of mine, died real young, you know. But uh his stepmom worked there, and she always she said, she's like, you know, y'all can take whatever y'all want, just don't make it obvious.
SPEAKER_01And of course, us yeah, I think we took advantage of, I mean, bro, I don't know. See, where we fucked up is because we were going like seven days in a row.
SPEAKER_00We went there for a week.
SPEAKER_01And then also we went multiple times in the same day that last day we got caught, and I even told these niggas like aye, bro, like it wasn't the thing like we were doing this shit. It wasn't and also the fact too, it was like we were doing other shit at the top of this. But then when we were in this, like I didn't even want to go into the situation. I was like, no, I didn't want to do it. I they was in this nigga, this nigga right here, because I took a charge. This one I can say this shit right now, because I took a charge for this nigga right here. This I'm sitting fucking right next to. I don't mind taking it because it wasn't that bad. I I did it for him, but I didn't do it for the other nigga though. Fuck him. But pretty much these niggas were pretty much like, oh bro, ble, bleep, we gotta go in the store again. He was fucking thinking, I don't know. He was with it. Cause he I already know he was about to do with this shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he see Zach kept pushing the shit. Like me, like, of course, me being young, you know, like I'm easily influenced, you know what I'm saying? I was down for whatever, but he kept pushing it because he was, you know, I'm saying he he was homeless too. You know what I mean? Like he didn't have shit. So we'll get in we'll we'll get into that too. But basically he just kept pushing it. So like like I said, I was easily influenced. So we just kept going and going, and then one day we pulled up there. I think it was like what the second or third fucking time that day, we done went in there and took shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then in fact, and then I was on the side building. We had him park on the side, and then I didn't like do that. Like I was like, I was in the car, and like I didn't even leave the car. That's a fuck you don't even stand the car. I was in the car and I got charged. How the fuck does that make sense, nigga? How I know, no, no, no, no. How I I until this day, even when I went to court, because I'm like, I only got a message for this shit. Like, this is like the only charge I've ever gotten, which is ironically the craziest shit ever. It's like we're not going to map it. Fucking when this happened, like, I all honestly, I didn't even really knew what was going on while they were in the store, but I just see them running out the store and shit. They just fucking rushing the fuck out. They jump in the car, like, pull out.
SPEAKER_00I was like, ah, and then the lady, you see the lady come out. She got her phone out, she's recording her. She's like, no, y'all, y'all fucking stop right there. Y'all been stealing from beer for weeks straight, been catching y'all every tongue. And literally, it was so weird because I walk in and I'm like, all right, y'all tell Zach, I'm like, yo, you go around this side to where the blunt wraps were, you just steal a bunch of swishers and games, shit like that. And I'm gonna go in here and just grab like two or three cases of beer, as much as I can fit in my fucking hands. So I grab two or three cases of beer and I just go to walk out. And I just hear this lady start screaming. She's like, no, fuck no, you stop right there, boy. And I turn around, I'm like, huh? She's like, stop right there. You're gonna wait here for the cops to come. Y'all been stealing. And I turn around and I was like, hell no, fuck you, bitch. And I dropped, I literally dropped the cases of beer, and it was like a six-pack of some fucking smearing off or some shit. I dropped it, I'm pretty sure it broke, crashed all over the fucking floor, glass and shit. So I just took off running. And I guess, you know, Zach seen it, so he came running out too. And I jump in the passenger scene. I'm like, bro, pull up, pull up. That's when the bitch came out, started recording us and shit. So yeah, he speeds off home, bro, and then fucking uh we get home, like what, 10 minutes go by?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Two or three cops pull up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then yo, you know, all right, no. Here's the all right, here's the craziest shit, too. So we all were three were in the house, but Zach was uh hiding under the fucking bed in one of the bedrooms while the cops are here. So he was able to get away with all this shit. So they were they were and that's the craziest shit. They weren't looking for worried about us, they were looking for him, and I was.
SPEAKER_00They pulled up, they were just like, so they said something they were like, all right, well, who's that other guy that y'all were with? And see, I ain't gonna lie, like I was like, We made up some fake names because it's like James, I know that's all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01I said, yo, he like at first we didn't say whatever, and then they thought we were lying. I was like, man, his name was James. Like we literally was just driving and picked him up. And we didn't we had it where we just dropped him off over there, and I was like, man, fuck him. If you find him, and then the whole time this nigga's like literally in the out of the room, under the bed. And then like this, and then and then they would and then that's a whole thing thing. I remember they took my ID, and also I remember too, they were on my ass. They were trying to give me all the days.
SPEAKER_00It was you were 18 at the time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I was like, you know, we can take. I was like, nigga, fuck you. I was like, I'm not not gonna say fuck you. I was actually kind of polite, I'm not gonna sit here and say, I said fuck you today.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, I don't know how we we got away with that shit.
SPEAKER_01No, it's because it was COVID, also because the fact that I took the blame for the like because I was the only one that got charged. I was the only one, nigga. I had to go to like six, seven court dates for that shit, nigga. That's so fucking crap. Did you have to do community service? I had to do 82 hours of fucking community service, and I had to do like an eight-hour course, and I had to pay like a thousand dollars plus more in fucking course for an instant meter nigga for a candy bar. I got charge on my fucking discovery, bro. Magic, I this one's for grandma cookies.
SPEAKER_00No, bro.
SPEAKER_01I fucking that's like you that just reinforced me being a fan nigga back then, bro. Like, it's like goddamn, like dude, like, man, what you in here for, bro? Like, ah man, no, I shot this nigga, bro. Dude, like, what I got doing, be like, yo, what you in here for? Nah, nigga, you know. I I robbed that baby truck, nigga.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Or it's arm robbery, nigga. They're like, what? But like, no, nigga. I know I just took it. I was like, no, they're like, nigga, get the fuck out here, bro. Get out my face. That's how I'm saying that's why I'm like, for real. But I'm grateful that that was a late, even though that like that sounds funny to other people, that shit impacted my life uh fucking deeply, bro. And I couldn't get because it's a fucking petty fev. Petty fev, they don't fuck with that shit, bro.
SPEAKER_00But then, yeah, I mean, that was kind of like the start of just how like how everything looks like.
SPEAKER_01But I didn't even get in trouble for it until after I moved out of his spot. That was a weirdest shit. Like it was like five, four or five months later. They came to my mom's house and they would like give me the shit for the discovery and shit. But like, anyways, so right after I take a charge for this nigga, I get a job at Subway because his mom was the manager. So Oh, we got other stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So pretty much I was working then, and pretty much this is back when it was like minimal, minimum wage. Minimum wage.
SPEAKER_00He worked for like a week or two straight and only got like what three, four hundred bucks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I barely got any money, bro. And I fucking got my first check and I was with this nigga in a car because his mom allowed me to use her car. So we were just driving around Harrisburg, and I saw my check, I was like, oh my fucking god. I started crying. I was bawling, I was bawling my eyes out, bro. Cause I was just like, holy shit, nigga, this is like Bro was it was a struggle.
SPEAKER_00It was a struggle. Even though he was staying with me and shit, like we were still struggling back then. Like, yeah, that's all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01So the place we were staying at, like it was there was it was a butt on top of a building, but like they were fucking roaches, we had roaches, rats, rats, fucking.
SPEAKER_00I was missing meth downstairs. Yeah, remember that was that.
SPEAKER_01No, remember that no, I no, I think that's like the first story we should talk about. Remember the day you had I almost died in the house?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we literally had to leave the crib because they was down there cooking shit, and the vents went from the bottom to the downstairs to up to where we was. We was on our apartment, so it was on top of this car shop. But there was a lot of sketchy shit that was going on down there, you know what I'm saying? So like they would have people just come like all types of meth heads, bro, would just come in there like all time for like one o'clock in the morning till literally till like five, what, five, six in the morning? Every day, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's all I'm saying. You see, and you can hear this shit because like we're in a like small fucking creaky ass house.
SPEAKER_00So like yeah, you hear everything, bro. Yeah, and then through the vents, all that shit.
SPEAKER_01And I remember this one particular day that I was off of work, and then fucking I I was just laying on the couch sleeping.
SPEAKER_00And then the fumes, like literally, they was down, they was down there cooking some shit, bro. And the the fumes from it, it's it just was going up, you know what I'm saying, from their vents up to us, and the fumes was so fucking strong, bro. Like it was giving us all fucking headaches, making us dizzy and shit. We literally had to leave. My little how old was my little how old was Boo-Boo at the time? I think he was like six, like six, seven, bro. We all had to we had to get him out, you know what I'm saying? We had to leave. It was that fucking bad, bro. And then like the dude that was downstairs doing it, he was also homeless too, but he was working for the people that was downstairs. We lived on top of a car shop for y'all's information. So it was like re-poining cars and shit like that, but they was doing they it was a sketchy they had a sketchy little business going on. But the dude that was homeless and it was like they was all the one that was cooking the meth down there, he stayed in a fucking first it was like a semi-truck, but like it was this old semi-truck, but you know how all them trucks have you know what I'm saying, beds in the back and shit. He was just staying in some old ass semi-truck in the back of the bed with his fucking wife, and uh they were both, you know, smoking meth and shit like that. But long story short, he used to beat on her and shit like that. He used to have all types of younger chicks, you know what I'm saying, go in and was a fucking trifling ass. He was sick and fucking he was getting them fucking fucking high and he was doing shit to him.
SPEAKER_01Fucking piece of shit. Yeah, but no, no, no, that's late, but I mean that's later on. But like I'll say, like, that day when y'all found me, because I was thinking a nap. Oh, I was fucking off work, and then like I remember like I just like fucking you just pushing on me, and I remember just like, oh shit. Like, what the fuck? I I felt fuck I felt terrible and I couldn't fucking really like my mouth just felt super metallically, and I couldn't fucking like really like like breathe. And beyond this not being able to breathe, like it just mainly when my eyes were red, and like I was just like, what the fuck, my face, and like it's just like oh hell no. And then once we get out the house and then and then like they know what's going on, they're like, oh my bad. I'm just like, fuck you. I I'm not in I was saying they're in an assaulting way. I'm like, bro, do what you gotta do. If you gotta get it out, like I was I mean, cause back at that time I was doing what we was all doing our own shit, like so we didn't get a lot of things.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I didn't give a fuck, bro.
SPEAKER_01I was like, I was in my I was in my mix, I was in my element, bro. Because like back then, I was just doing the most like because shit, like we would trying to do better. Even at that time, bro, like I was trying to do better. But I had anger issues, and I had a lot of problems beyond just anger issues, like acting like I knew every fucking thing, and also thinking the world was against me because I was fucking homeless and all these uh other insecurities that manifested into my fucking manifold of fucking emotions that I would display to people in a way that made me look like I was a fucking inconsiderate asshole. But I had to learn from that shit, even now. But when me seeing how I am now back then, like it's like a fucking complete 180.
SPEAKER_00Just going and just even putting ourselves back to where we were to now, it's bro, it's a big change, you know what I'm saying? We've all came a long ways, man. Like from before till now, like that that was a struggle, you know what I'm saying? Like that was like I said, even just putting our mindsets back then, you know, like that was it's a lot more to it, bro. But God is good though, man. God is good, he's done a lot in our lives, he still does every day, you know what I mean? Like to the men we are now. We was boys back then. Ain't no doubt. Like, we you might have been 18, whatever.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, but when I was not a man, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think that like me going through that shit, like it what I went through was not fucking cool. Like, no person at any age should go be homeless. Like, no person at 18 straight out of high school. Like, I was still a child, bro. Like, I know and me looking back at it, like when I was looking at Sub Lane, like I thought like, and this was during COVID. So I remember like during there was like when we had had the ordinance of like us not being able to go out, unless we had a piece of paper signed saying that like COVID, like I remember your mom had to like make us have it where we had a paper where each one of us signed it, where the league got pulled over. We were because I had to walk to work half the time because it was like right down the street. So pretty much we would have it where we would have this paper on us, we would be having it where like we were good, and also we would have to wear masks, and also the fact we were working at Subway and we had to work, but like everyone else, they at worked at a water park, were allowed to get checks for 600 bucks a week. 600 bucks a week back then was fucking amazing. You could live off that. Like people were fucking cook feet as hell. I was making eight. No, I was making $825, and then I made $9. $9 an hour, nigga. Hell yeah. Hell no. And this is middle Elkton too, so like I'm there's like literally, I remember there's like needles in the bathroom, people do shooting up heroin and shit, and I had to clean that shit up, people like nasty as hell. I'm clean up this fucking and then I'm in fucking this I would always just be extra studious of fucking making sure I clean because I didn't want to lose my job. Because also I used I I live in my manager, so I couldn't skip out of work, couldn't be lazy. And also I had respect for her because like she was like I viewed her as a second mom. Like I had like if I didn't respect her, I wouldn't not have done any of the shit I did. And I was like, I appreciated her, but she had her own problems at the time too. So it was like it wasn't like, oh, it was a perfect environment even then, but I was just like, shit, it was better than what the fuck I was going through when I was at home, and not me being on the street and sleeping in a car. I like alright, cool. So then why we got like good like six weeks in living with you, this me and you and your mom. Yep, and my stepdad. No, no, no, no, no. He came in right after, yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, my stepdad. And I first met this nigga, bro. This night, so when he first came out, I he was buff as a motherfucker.
SPEAKER_00He done been down for like three, three, four years.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this nigga fucking mind you, like he's like only five, eight, kibber tape. Not even, yeah. So like he let me looking at me like this, and I was intimidated by this nigga. I was just like, he was just like you was ten times bigger than me. Yeah, that's the fucked up part. I was like, I'll be damned. And then I've seen this nigga and he's just like, who, who, who are you? What's your last name? He was like, Veny. I was like, Vinny. He was just like, V.
SPEAKER_00I was like, I know your people.
SPEAKER_01He was like, hold on, hold on. Who who's who who's your daddy? I was like, uh, my Troy. Like, oh boy, I I used to be sales with your dad. I'll be like, I'll be there. I'll be like, oh hell no. And then I'll be like, and then also too, kind of find out that my grandfather cut his hair back in the day. So I was just like, oh shit. I was like, ain't that some Shit. What? No, that's that's how it really be, though. It's a small fucking world. So after me me and him getting a little bit more acquainted with each other, like he's like, Oh no, I love you nigga. He was cool, but he saw Zach, he's just like, Dang, uh, yeah, you gotta go. Because he was just on some no, because he was just doing doing the modes that didn't shit. Like, I was allowed to stay because like I was chill and I was like, I was trying to bring groceries and like doing whatever.
SPEAKER_00Hey, best believe he he wasn't just laying around though. He was working, you know, he helped me. Like I said, my mom was the manager where he was working at, so it's like he was helping her out when she needed help, you know what I mean? Like even with groceries and just everything like that, bro. You know what I mean? He helped out a lot. And it's like that time, bro. That time was it was a rough time, but it got a little rougher, you know, as time as time went on. But like that shit with Zach, he just like Vini was homeless, you know what I mean. Blake was homeless, bro, and like he just he would always ask for shit. Yo, Blake, let me get this. Yo, Blake, let me get that. And Blake being a good thing, selfish ass person, bro.
SPEAKER_01Like, I gave him the shoes, and clothes, like literally fucking helped him to the T. And he took advantage of that. But I want you to continue to explain how this motherfucker was.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, he basically he just, you know, we smoked a little weed. He was always like, Man, get some of this, get some of that. And like, this is like a little forward to the story. This is what really made us like, you know what I'm saying, like, alright, he's gotta get the fuck out. And then him and Vini got into it, whatever. We'll talk about that in a little bit. But my mom used to like babysit her co-workers, kids, and shit. And uh, this motherfucker brought a meth bubble inside the house. Like, he brought a bubble inside the house and had it wrapped up in like a bandana and shit where the kids were playing and shit. And I was like, yo, like I didn't know what the fuck it was. I was like, yo, what the fuck is that? And he was like, Bro, it's bubble I had stashed, da da da da da. And I'm like, yo, nah, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? I told him straight out, I was like, bro, that's that's dead wrong. You got all these fucking kids around here, you know what I'm saying? Like, you gotta do something with that shit. And then I told Vini, you know what I mean? I told Blake, he was like, he confronted him, he's like, Yo, bro, what the fuck you doing bringing shit like that in front of the, you know what I'm saying, around the kids, bro? Like, what's up with you? He's like, nah, nah, da da da da da. Like, like, I'll smash it right now, I'll break it. I'll tell you, I'll never do it again, I'll break it. You remember that shit?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I'm like, break that shit, break that shit in front of me right now.
SPEAKER_00He was like, smash it in front of me right now, and he unwrapped it, boom, boom, and then he smashed it. Crap or whatever. And then I think it was maybe like a week or two after, probably. Vini comes home, Blake comes home, he's like searching through a shit, and he's like, Yo, I'm missing a pair of shoes. What was it, like shoes and like shoes, my fucking supplements?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so condoms I was like, nigga, what?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, look, he had some condoms in his backpack, whatever, but those were missing. And then, like, he I was like, I was I forgot what it was. I was like, yo, what them shoes look like? And he was like, Was it the white ones? Yeah, it was the ones that I found on the fucking sheet. And sure as shit, I seen Zach with those on, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then I'm pretty sure I asked him about it, and he was like, cause Zach was always weirdly honest with me, you know what I'm saying? And he showed me this shit. He's like, Yeah, I got this, this, this, and that. And I was like, bro, that's dead wrong, nigga. Like, this dude was doing all this shit for you, bro. You know what I mean? And so I Blake came home, I told him, I was like, yo, bro, like, do stole your shit, bro. Like it's valid. Like, I seen it. He told me straight up, you know what I mean? And Blake was like, All right, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna confront him about the shit. Confront him about it, bro. And I think we was walking, uh, we was walking up the street. I think we was going to subway to get a sandwich for my mom's, wasn't we?
SPEAKER_01No, there was two times I confronted him. It was the first time because of my phone charger and was like, remember outside the car wash. And then I was like, bro, I was in it because I remember like sticks, sticks was all there and all that shit. Sticks, but they were dope. Ain't that some shit for me? We were there for both fucking times. Ain't that some shit? But like, I remember fucking the first time it was for my phone charger. And I was just like, bro, if you need my fucking charger, just fucking ask me, please. That's all I fucking say. And this thing was like, oh no, I never would. And oh you my homie, bro. I would never do it. I'm gonna scary. I'm like, bro, why you nigga, you why you scary? Nigga, I ain't even if you didn't do it, then why you tribling right now? And another over a charger. Over a charger. He played Crip.
SPEAKER_00He acted like he was Crip for James.
SPEAKER_01You know, he had a G I was like, bruh, I was like, nigga, then first off before I say any of this beginning forward, I had I am not feeling none of this shit. I ain't fucking I'm mixed. But I ain't part of none of this shit. I respect y'all niggas that do, but back then, like I like all them niggas that I saw around here, that especially this nigga was a white boy that fucking was from Shenandoah, that never really actually went anywhere in any.
SPEAKER_00His mom was fucking cops and shit. You ain't no fucking GD.
SPEAKER_01No, fuck it, wasn't Meth head. He was big meth head. That was his nickname in the street.
SPEAKER_00But he was yeah, he he acted all like he was gang this, gang that, and all this other shit. So this was the second time that Vini had confronted him. He did more than confront him. But let me get into that. So he's walk, we're walking up the street and shit.
SPEAKER_01I was at work when Y walking, just like this, I mind you.
SPEAKER_00Like this is just him and oh yeah, that's right, because we walk up on you at work and then you come out and then we leave.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because he told my boss. I was at work, but I was like, you were texting me and I was at work, and then you were walking within it. That's that's you explained that part.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I basically like I kind of lured him up there. I lured him up there too. Cause he wasn't gonna see VD, you know, he wasn't gonna see Blake face to face, bro. So I kind of lured him up there, like, yeah, yeah, walk with me. We're gonna walk over here, da da da da da. Probably get like a sandwich or some shit. So we walking. Blake comes outside, he sees Zach, he's like, yo, bro, like, you know what I'm saying? You steal my shit, bro. And Zach was like, nah, bro, I'm like, but I would never do that shit, bro. I would never do that to you, bro. I love you, bro. I love you, bro. You my family, bro. I love you. And Blake was like, Man, fuck all that shit. I know you stole my shit, bro. Man, fuck your mom, fuck your dead homies, fuck if you GD, fuck you. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01I know not mean this shit. I don't reason I said this shit to him is because I said towards him. No, bro. No, we do not mean this shit to any person in real life. That's why I like that. No disrespect toward any gang, any organization. Because I know in real life, like you would if he was real on that shit, I would have got shot and killed. Also, that back in that time, you fight. I didn't give a fuck. I also didn't give a fuck too, because I was like, at that time, I was ready to die. Because I was already fucking homeless.
SPEAKER_00But like, go ahead and yeah, bro, he was like, Man, fuck you, fuck this, fuck your dead homies, fuck your mom, fuck your dead grandma, all this shit. And I don't know about y'all.
SPEAKER_01I know I get really out I I say some wild shit.
SPEAKER_00I don't know about y'all, but I know a motherfucker tells me that, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's time to go, bro. Whether if you get beat up or not, you know what I mean? It's about respect at that point. Like, you gotta go. But he just, no, bro, really, bro, you gonna do that to me, bro? You gonna do me do me like that, bro? Like, I I fuck with you, bro. I love you, bro. That's that's fucked up, man. Why would you say that? And Blake just winded up pushing up on him, like he got up on him, he was like, Man, fuck it, you know, admit that shit, bro. And he grabbed him, he grabbed him by the shirt and he kind of like shoved him back, and then he swung on him one time. Boom! Hit him in the jaw. Well, he kind of like turns around and like pulls away from him because he had him hold held by Blake had him held by the shirt, and Zach takes off running. He's like, Man, fuck my shoulder, bro. Really, bro, you gonna hit me, bro? And out of nowhere, it's weird. A homeboy named Stiggs at the time, he's walking up the sidewalk and shit. He's walking with his girl, and he's like, yo, man, like out of nowhere. Like, what the fuck's going on, y'all? We explained to him what happened. We're like, yo, he stole Blake's shit. Blake's telling him, yeah, he stole my shit. I'm trying to fight him. He won't fight me. Well, I guess Stiggs and Zach knew each other. So Stiggs was like, all right, like Zach's gonna come with me. Y'all meet me down at the apartments down the road. He's like, Meet up, meet us at the apartments. Stiggs was like, I'll come, you know, I'll get him to fight you one-on-one. Just meet us down at the apartments, go behind the apartments where the little creek is, whatever. Y'all fight. So we like, all right, we let Zach and them walk up, you know what I'm saying, walk ahead of us first. And then I think we went inside, told my mom's like, hey, Blake's gotta leave real quick.
SPEAKER_01You know, and also I mind you before even going outside, and also, too, I'm gonna tell you my perspective of this. So me when they pulled up before I said all that crazy shit, like I literally clocked out of work. I was at work, I clocked out of work to specifically go do this shit. And also after I said all that disrespectful shit, like I punched that nigga in the face too. I was like, I like I legit actually like punched that nigga in the mouth, like legit, like in the parking lot. I didn't say like hard. Actually, no, it was pretty hard. I thought I was like, You heard that, you heard that shit. That's all you heard. It was with my left hand too, and it was like I was just like, it was just like insensible, like I just and I think you shoved him like into the wall because he was screaming, oh my shoulder. Yeah, but my shoulder. I was like, nigga, I didn't even hear your shoulder. What the fuck are you talking about? I was like, but anyways, so I remember we walking and them walking, making us doing this shit, and I was just like hyping myself up, and I was doing all like fucking hot boy shit, uh crazy acting like cuckoo banana, but in reality, I was trying to act like I'm making niggas trying to yeah, yeah, uh for awesome real shit, but like no fucking I was trying to get um stigs to hit me in the face. I'm like nigga smack me in the face, bro. Get me mad. He's like, nigga, wait, he's I said think it smacked me in the motherfucker. Did it yes? Finally, I had to like I had to like I was like, nigga, smack me in the motherfucking face. He was like, I was like, ah dang it. I was like, I don't think I didn't think he was gonna do it, but he did.
SPEAKER_00We get down to the apartments and shit, bro, and it's like it was me, Blake, Stiggs, his girl, Zach, and then who it was two other people. Was it Moses?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was Moses and uh Brian.
SPEAKER_00Brian and Stiggs, yeah. So they're like, all right, like y'all gonna fight one-on-one, whatever. We all had our phones out. We're like, well, we're gonna record this shit, but y'all, you know what I'm saying? Y'all fight for like what? Right? Like a minute or two.
SPEAKER_01No, I was saying like a minute. No, 30. Yeah, y'all got 30.
SPEAKER_00Run the 30s. Y'all got 30 seconds. Stiggs walks up, he's like, all right, he grabs his gun, he cocks it. It's like, all right, this shit's going on the ground. But if any of y'all hit me or my bitch, I'm I'm gonna up this bitch. So we like, all right, man, get on. Ain't nobody gonna touch you. We ain't fucking with you, bro. Just let him fight. So they square up, all right, go. Boom. You know what I'm saying? Zach, bro, he he literally, like, you can tell he wasn't even trying to fight, bro. He literally was running the whole time. But they boom, all right, y'all go. Blake just rushed him, hit him one time. He does that shit where he turns around because he's running, but he hits him, he like turns around and fucking Zach goes to cock his right fist back. Blake hits him with a two-piece. Fucking Zach rolls, he drops on the ground and he rolls. He does like a tumble roll, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Megan nigga do a backflip, but I was like, and I was like, Yeah, he made him flip, bro.
SPEAKER_00He made him roll, and then he gets up and like Blake went to go rush it, but he was like, nah, nah. Like he stopped because he wasn't gonna do him dirty like that. You know what I mean? Well, Zach gets back up, Zach tries, you know, he cocks his fist back, fist back again. I think you hit him with a little jab with your left hand, boom, you hit him, and then you just shove him, and he just fucking rolls on the ground again. You're like, all right, man, get the fuck up. He gets up, they shake hands, whatever, and you know what I'm saying? That was the end of that shit. Really, like that was like, all right, bro, you gotta find somewhere else to live. You know what I'm saying? Like we told him, you gotta go, bro. Like, you know where he found the live?
SPEAKER_01Under the school.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh, yeah. He was living under the fucking elementary school.
SPEAKER_01Under elementary school, bro. This thing was literally sleeping shitting on himself and shit, bro. He literally was like fucking out. You know how they called him, bro? Cause like he was shitting down there and they found dirty clothes under the shit on the clothes with shit on the clothes.
SPEAKER_00And then how he got locked up the second time. So I wasn't there. Blake wasn't there, but we had got called and was like, yo, Zach just got locked up. Zach was trying to trying to lure one of these little kids at the trailer park to the park, and we were like, yo, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know. I was like, ah, hell.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, hell no. Like, he he never really struck me that weird, but like you can sense that type of shit about certain people. But he like, bro, our homeboy called us and was like, bro, the cops are here, the cops got him in cuffs. The little kid that is in this trailer park, the little kid was saying that he was trying to get him to go to the park. That Zach was like, Yeah, man, come on, I'll take you to the park. Was literally trying to take this little kid from his home and take him down to the park and do God knows fucking what. You know what I'm saying? His ass got locked up. The police locked him up for the shit. And yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_01So he had to go. He was gone. Yeah, he was gone. And then I think we had like a like a transition period where like we would just do it. Oh, we had remember I after he left, like I'll tell you like a week later, we had someone from all the way from Wisconsin came. And we had no No These niggas were 18 years old, bro. I was like, and this nigga came to fight this nigga, bro. Like that's a baby, bro.
SPEAKER_00They was gonna jump me if I know they were, and like dead ass.
SPEAKER_01Like, I remember I was asleep, bro. And I'm all right, so you wanna I want you to explain this, probably. I'll explain. Yeah, you played the first part, and I was playing the part when I was down there talking to him.
SPEAKER_00So, like, I went to school with this one dude, still my bro, you know what I'm saying? Me and him always been tight, you know, to me. My homeboy, his name's Zarek. So me and Zarek went to school together and shit. Well, there was this one slower girl, like we was in high school, and I think her name was like Maddie or some shit. I forg I forget her name, though. No, it wasn't it wasn't Maddie on the card.
SPEAKER_01It was something about a girl, it was it was a white girl, we'll just say that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we in the group chat, me and Zarek in the group chat with her, we just start talking shit like bitch, you ugly, bitch. You this bitch you that you look like retard. You know what I'm saying? Dumb shit. And then these dudes from a total different state, you know what I'm saying? You know how the internet beef be when a dude's from a total different state, they talking shit, you like, man, fuck you, pussy. I ain't worried about you, you ain't no shit. So I gave him my address, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01And I didn't know none of this shit. So like I don't even know if this nigga actually didn't. I don't even know what the I gave my address and shit.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, yeah, I'm at da da da da. You know what I'm saying? Pull up because they said, Oh, we be coming through Virginia all the time. These dudes are all the way in Wisconsin, keep that in mind. But they say they say they be coming through Virginia all the time. So I'm like, all right, yeah, here's my address. Boom. Feel froggy, jump, you know what I mean? I ain't tripping, whatever. So about a week or two goes by. I'm sitting there chilling, right? So I'm playing like I had my PlayStation in my living room. I didn't keep it in my room because I ain't really even sleeping my room for real. I slept on the couch in the living room and I was just playing my PlayStation. My little brother walks outside to the porch and like I ain't hear, like, I don't hear these dudes talk, but all I hear is my little brother go, fuck you, and slam the door. Keep in mind, this little motherfucker's like six years old. So I'm like, yo, I turn around like, what the fuck? What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you saying shit like that? He goes, Bubby, he used to call me Bubby, you know what I mean. He's like, Bubby, there's two guys outside that they're looking for you, they're trying to fight you. So I'm like, hold the fuck up. So I stand up, you know what I'm saying? I throw my controller and shit and I walk outside, dude. And like I said, we were on an apartment above this fucking car shop. So they had stairs, like our porch was on top of the apartment, you know what I'm saying? It was just a fucking flight of stairs, like what, 10 foot high, probably?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's a pretty stink and shit.
SPEAKER_00So I'm standing on a porch and I see these two little scrawny motherfuckers. They got fucking like MMA gloves on or some shit. And they're like, yo, is your name Caleb? I'm like, Yeah, what's up? They're like, man, come down here and talk to us, bro. Come down here. They were like, Oh, you talking all that shit, da da da da man, come down here and fight us then. And I stopped and I was just started laughing. I was like, bro, I was like, You y'all must think I'm a dumb motherfucker. I ain't coming down there to fight, you know what I'm saying? I said, the second I walk down there, y'all gonna jump me. I ain't stupid. You know what I'm saying? The fuck y'all think I'm like, bro, how old are y'all? Oh, we 18. We 18. I'm like, bro, I'm 14. You know what I'm saying? Not that that makes a fuck. When I'm 14 years old, bro, I ain't dumb. Like, y'all gonna go down, I'm gonna come down there, y'all gonna try and fucking jump me. So I was like, hold on. I was like, give me a sec, I'm gonna go inside and grab some, I'm gonna grab somebody real quick. I'll be right back for y'all. And I walk inside, keep in mind Blake slumped out. Blake's passed out, probably came home from work or some shit. He's knocked the fuck out. So I walk in the room, bro, and I'm shoving him. I'm like, yo, Blake, bro, these these two dudes outside, you know what I'm saying? They trying to fight me, bro. They trying to jump me, you know what I'm saying? Like, walk down there with me just in case they do, you know what I'm saying? Like, motherfucker got my back, you know what I'm saying? Well, I wake him up, he gets his shoes on, his hoodie on, and shit like that. We walk outside, these motherfuckers done dip. I guess when I told them, oh, I'm gonna go get somebody real quick, I'm gonna be right back. They probably thought I was gonna get a fucking gun or something shit. So they dip out. Well, I text them like, hey, yo, come back, bro, come back. So they're like, Bet, bet. They turn around, they come back, and fucking uh Blake walks outside, he starts talking to him.
SPEAKER_01No, I remember they said like they drove by, they'll know they came out of the city.
SPEAKER_00No, they drove by and see. They didn't say like that. Oh shit, oh shit, I gotta win. They pulled off. We were both standing outside and they drove past after I done texting them, told them come back. They drove past and they go, oh shit. And they speed off. I'm like, bro, what the fuck are y'all doing? Like, come back. You know what I'm saying? Y'all want to fight, bro? Come on. So they wind up coming back and shit. Blake's talking to them. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I forgot. You now you tell them what they were telling you now.
SPEAKER_01All right, so pretty much I walk down here and I'm looking at and I'm just like, man, I'm waking up. I was like, I was like, God dang it. What the fuck's going on? I just woke up. I was like, bruh, what'd he do? Like I literally, that was like the first thing I said. And they were like, bro, he he disrespected the female and all that shit. I was like, all right, all right. I was like, first off, why are y'all wearing gloves? Like I that I literally was like the first question I asked that nigga. Like, I was just like, why, why are y'all wearing gloves? And then the second, and then I was like, man, did it? I was like, all right, second off, nigga, like y'all doing so much. I was like, I'll get him down here to fight. I was like, who is he actually trying to fight? And then like there was a tall nigga that was like my size, but there was a short nigga that was actually his size. But they were both 18. This nigga had glasses and was scrawny and shit. And he was like, Oh, I'm gonna fuck him up. I was like, all right, you know what I wasn't fighting. Fuck it. I was like, I ain't bad.
SPEAKER_00And keep in mind, I'm upstairs the whole time.
SPEAKER_01Like, yeah, so I was talking to these niggas and then like I'm just like saying whatever. Yeah, then I fucking remember it. Yeah, go, you want to go ahead.
SPEAKER_00But like for real, I'm not even like, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't even trying to fight. Like, I was like, Yeah, I'll do it, whatever. But I'm like, bro, man, if I go down there, it's hard to tell what's gonna happen. It's two of them, whatever. Yeah, Blake was outside and shit, but I was just like, man, I don't know. Well, my stepdad walks up to me, you know what I'm saying? He's like, Yo, are those them same fucking punks that kept driving past the house and trying to fight you? And I was like, Yeah, bro, yeah. He was like, he was like, son, he looked at me, he was like, You put your fucking shoes on, you go outside and you fight them. And I was like, All right, he's like, nah, he was like, Can't get that. He's like, I'm telling you, I don't ever promote violence with you. I don't want you to go out and start some shit. But he said, Them boys kept coming driving past this house and trying to get you to fight them. He was like, You put your fucking shoes on, you go outside and be a fucking man. And I was like, you know what? All right, I put my fucking shoes on. I texted my other homeboy, which his name's Blake too, but his last name's Shiftless. So I text him like, yo, which he literally lived 30, 40 fucking steps a house beside me. Yeah, right next to the show. So I text him like, yo, bro, walk, you know, saying, walk across the street. I'm about to fight these dudes. He texted me, ASAP, bet. And it was so weird. So like I waited a minute until I put my shoes on. I think I put a shirt on and I walk out there. And as I walk out, I run down the stairs, I walk across the gravel lot, and as I'm walking across the street, here comes Blake Shifflet running. Boom, boom, boom, boom. So I'm like, all right, we got numbers now. It's three of us, two of them, whatever. So I walk across the street and uh you tell them what they were trying to do.
SPEAKER_01All right, so pretty much they were trying to get it with like, oh bro, we can go to the park and all that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, y'all come, y'all get in our car and we'll drive them.
SPEAKER_01I ain't getting in the car with you. I like bruh, I'll walk down there and you chew down there. Or like, bro, we can do it like over here, bro. Like, and it's like it's up to you. And then like I remember right when Calvin came down, and then Blake came in, and then like as soon as they did that shit, I mean Kale just boom, knock that nigga the fuck down, bro. Fucking just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Literally, bro, smashing down on this nigga, bro.
SPEAKER_00He looked at me.
SPEAKER_01No, and then no, no. I think he said some slick shit. No, no, no. He said some shit and then he trying to punch, and then like as soon as he trying to punch you, you fucking minked him because he missed.
SPEAKER_00I weave that shit, boom, hit him with a crazy right hook. The right hook set him down instantly, set him down. I got right on top of my literally like had my legs over his like.
SPEAKER_01Dang, like it's like on top of this nigga, bro. I was like, God damn. And then like, mind you, the other nigga that like was like my size, he keeps trying to grab me, get him off of me. Nah, I was looking at him, I'm like, nah, bro. Like, literally, like and he was but that was the whole thing. He was more worried about me the whole time. But I'm like, me, ironically my me, me and him actually are still cool to his day, which is ironically, I don't know how that worked. But anyway, so fucking this nigga just getting bloody the fuck up.
SPEAKER_00As soon as I'm hitting, bro, as I'm hitting up, blood's flying in there. I literally got his blood in my face.
SPEAKER_01I broke his glasses and I fucked his nose up.
SPEAKER_00I was like, God damn.
SPEAKER_01I literally have blood in my fucking face, yo, because blood was just middle of Elkton, middle of the fucking street, bro.
SPEAKER_00Like bro, across the street on nerd at a nursing home, yo. At a fucking personal, and then there's an old man on the fucking and sitting on the old man sitting on his chair, he's screaming, kick his fucking ass, kick his fucking this old man at a nursing home sitting on his chair and he's screaming, kick his fucking ass, Caleb, kick his fucking ass. Cause I knew the older guy used to go there, talk shit with him, whatever, but he's fucking screaming. He's like, Fuck yeah, get him, boy. They kept driving past you, you kick your fucking ass. And then I'm fucking beating this shit out of him. I wound up getting off and fucking uh the dude says, What now you tell him how he's like, Oh, I'm gonna fucking get my bag and then no, he's like, you know, and then I remember he was trying to come back up the stairs and he was like, Oh bro, you keep on talking all that shit, bro.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna go get my bag out of the car and shit, bro.
SPEAKER_00Because after I beat him up, and then I'm trying to make him up.
SPEAKER_01And then he was trying to get on him, and then I mean he like he was trying to go to the stairs, and then he walked up the stairs, and then like I had to be like, hey, you go up these stairs, bro.
SPEAKER_00Like, we're gonna kill you, bro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like we I've stayed, I'm like, dog, I'm staying here. So um, yeah, if you walk up these stairs, you might not come back down. Don't do it, bro. So like nigga leaves. And um, it was crazy though, because like I don't know how this nigga ended up. Like, I ended up being cool with this nigga. Like, this nigga's in jail now, too. Like, prison. Prison, prison. No, he's about to get out. He's about to get out. Like, man, nah, free free free to homie, bro. He could he associate.
SPEAKER_00He turned out to be solid. I ain't gonna watch it.
SPEAKER_01Crazy as hell. But like, nah, he really, if he got that back, he really was gonna do is in the angle front. But anyways, once I see that's what I'm saying. Like, we kept on getting in situations like that, bro. Like with me, nigga. Like, I think what was that one time we were at down at the trailer park? Oh, were you there at the trailer? Like, we were down at the trailer park with me, you, Moses, and Stiggs. We were in fucking um Moses' car and we were at um fucking Devin's house, and we were fucking picking up a bone or some shit for Benny. Some other shit. Yeah, I remember that shit. The police stormed up here. Yeah, the police also. Stormed in so. Raided that hoe. Yeah, so y'all, I don't know how we fucking. So pretty much, this is pretty much we were in this trail park in Elkton and shit. We were fucking this back before we was legal. So like all the niggas with that, we were doing this shit. Like we were just trying to pick up a bomb. My one homie was doing whatever. Like he was just driving. But like fucking, he was smoking a cigarette in the car while he was doing all this shit. So pretty much the cops is all pull the fuck up. But they weren't looking for us specifically. They were looking for um one of the people in the trailers, and they were trying to say, get like a fucking thing to talk to him about, like a traffic foul. It was some bullshit. It was whatever. So fucking all of us are fucking talking to the cops, and they're like, oh, it smells in here. It smells like smoke. And my homie was like, ah, it's a cigarette. And he's like, ah, it was like, I was like, oh fuck, bro. I'm sorry, fuck. And then like V V and you all in the back and shit. And then like this is mind you, this is not his car. Like, he's driving the car and it's someone else's car. So fucking, like, after fucking they all see talk to us and shit. Because they made it all of us have our windows roll down and shit, too. I was like, fuck. And then fucking right after they go into the trailer park, find him, talk to him. It was over a traffic violation, shit. It was some stupid shit. It was like it was just straight up her ass nigga. And then afterwards, all this shit, we came over there for a fucking bong. And they niggas didn't even have the fucking bong over there. It was at fucking his other house. Yeah, bro. Oh my fuck. It's just the stupidest shit we would get into, man. And it was just like kept on going and going and going and going.
SPEAKER_00Hey, I think we should uh fast forward to the part with Terry.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. I'm gonna talk about no because the thing, a night to date. What? No, I want to talk about when you smack the shit out of me. Oh yeah. Yeah, I so I mean we went alright. So this is back right near the end while I was living with this nigga. So fucking.
SPEAKER_00Keep in mind I got anger issues, bro. I grew up with a rough childhood, you know what I mean? Like, no excuse, you know what I'm saying? But I just like compared to then and now, I didn't know how to control my anger. So I just do do shit and not think, you know what I mean? But I had a little mentor at the time, like he would pick me up and like try and take me, you know what I'm saying, places and try and like coach me through shit, you know what I'm saying, like with my anger and all that stuff, but I just never really fucked with it, you know what I mean. But I think it was one night we were all sitting in the living room. It was Blake, me, my mentor, my mom, my stepdad, and I think I was getting into it with my mom. Like I was cuss either my mom or my stepdad, I was cussing them out and getting into it with them, and just it's a long story, but we were getting into it, I was cussing them out, whatever. And I think you had said something.
SPEAKER_01You were no, I said something about your phone. I said, like, you simple because you snapped your fucking phone in half. I'm like, why are you so fucking simple? I said, No, why are you so simple? I said, Why you so simple? That's literally the sentence I said. It and then, but you want to tell him what you did? You want to tell him what you did?
SPEAKER_00So yeah, he said that, whatever, and I just probably just it just triggered me. I ain't gonna lie. I just took off on him. I just hit him one time. Boom.
SPEAKER_01And then I I just immediately I was like chill, whatever. Like it as soon as I felt that smack, I like like as I hit him, bro.
SPEAKER_00He was sitting down. Keep in mind, he was sitting down, I was standing up. So I kind of like ran up, I kinda I snuck him, you know what I mean? I hit him. Boom. And when I hit him, he jumped up. And when he jumped up, I was like, oh shit, because I was a lot smaller. He was, you know what I'm saying? He still is bigger than me, but I was way smaller. But when he jumped up, I was like, oh shit. Like I realized, you know what I'm saying? I kind of realized what I did. I was like, oh fuck. And I took a couple steps back, and then you know, everybody like my mom, my stepdad, my mentor holding him or hold was holding Blake back. They're like, nah, man, don't hurt him, don't hurt him. I was about to I ran to the kitchen, dude. I ran in the kitchen, I grabbed this little fucking butt. I think it was a butter knife. I was like, man, cause this motherfucker's gonna beat me up, bro. I'm gonna have to stab him. Like, I'm gonna have to fucking kill him, bro, because he's gonna fuck me up. But then we wind up leaving and shit like that. My mom, he hops in the car, my mom.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they made me like go outside and smoke cigarettes and then like I punched the wall. And then Dave was like, like, you know, if you do, you're gonna kill him. I was like, nigga, fuck that. I'm gonna fuck.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, man. We've been through some shit, bro. I mean, we've done things, been through things.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I obviously didn't do it, so I mean he's he's I'm still here, but no, I think we all ended up both crying after when he came back. I think that was kind of the fuck part. I think it's yeah, we both lined up like ex you know because no there was a preacher there. There was an actual pre no, that was a fucking crazy shit. No, there was a preacher there, and that was the same. All right, bro, that I now that's fine. Get get to what we were talking about with Terry. Yeah, with Terry. All right, so what can we say about Terry?
SPEAKER_00So just so y'all know who we're talking about, we're talking about the dude that was cooking meth at the uh car shop where we was living at. He was the one that was cooking meth, the one that was beating on his wife staying in the uh like the semi-truck, the tractor trailer, or whatever the fuck you want to call it. And uh yeah, so dude, he's been beating on his wife for a long time, you know what I'm saying? He's having all these underage girls come in there, underage girls, young girls, and he's drugging them up, he's doing things to them, you know what I'm saying? And like one of my homeboys, I guess he had I don't know if he had done something to his sister, but his sister was going back there and uh he had texted his sister and was like, Hey, I just want to let you know you looked really good last night. And from what I've heard and what I was told, his sister was like passed out. So he yeah, get the hint.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? He was just some fuck shit. But no, you know why I specifically didn't like this nigga, bro. Remember when he bit beat his pit bull?
SPEAKER_00That's when I really beat the fuck out. That's when I first confronted that nigga, bro. He used to beat the fuck out of his dog, and he would always say slick shit to us, like you know what I'm saying. He'd always say slick shit to me, my other buddies, like my little brother. That's what it was.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he said some shit to a six-year-old about a circle jerk. Me and my little brother, we'd be trifling.
SPEAKER_00Keep in mind, me, my little brother, my home, you know, Blake, we'd always have like fucking eight or nine people at the crib. You know what I'm saying? We'd always be big chilling, like my crib used to be like the trap house. We'd have everybody there, we drink, smoke, just chill. You know what I'm saying? A bunch of young'uns, bro, just chilling, you know what I mean, vibing out. Man, we was all walking upstairs, and he looks at my little brother. He goes, Hey, like, can I join that circle? Can I join y'all's little circle jerk going on up there? And I stopped, I was like, Yo, what the fuck you say to him? Like, just what the fuck you say to my little brother, bro? I was like, man, what the fuck is wrong with you? He was like, Man, I was just kidding, man. I didn't mean nothing like it. Keep in mind, Blake was like, you know what I'm saying? He still is my big brother, but he was like that big brother, like something happens, you hey, all right, I'm going to tell Big Bro, you know what I mean? So I ran upstairs, you know. Hey, Blake, bro, he said Blake was like, nah, where's that motherfucker at? We walked downstairs, bro. We walked up. Blake, I sit back because I'm like, I'm gonna just let Blake do his thing, bro. Blake walks up on him, he gets in his face. Y'all literally were shoulder to shoulder. I think you like bumped him and like shoved him back a little bit. He was like, Man, what the fuck you saying to the kid, bro? He's like, and Terry looks at me, he goes, Oh, what'd you bring back up, hon? You bring back up, you need him, huh? And I was like, Man, I don't fucking need him, but it's the but yeah, I want him here, that's for damn sure. And then that's when he was like, Man, you saying shit to the kid, bro? What's up? He was like, Man, I didn't say nothing. I didn't say nothing.
SPEAKER_01No, I was just like, nah. I I mean I was like, man, he was like, I was like, I'm 18. Like he's 15, bro. Say some shit to me. I'm 18, bro. Like you, I'm not you can knock out. I don't want no problem with you, man. I know I know about you can knock me the fuck out, bro.
SPEAKER_00Like, you gonna knock niggas out. Who you gonna knock out? Knock me out. But he kept saying the whole time, oh, I don't want no problem with you, man. And keep in mind, my stepdad was down here at this point, too. My stepdad walked up to him, was like, Look, Terry, you better leave these youngins alone, bro. They're gonna kill you, like they're gonna hurt you. You know what I'm saying? Leave them alone, they'll fuck you up. You know what I mean? Once one of them gets a hold of you, it ain't gonna be just that one, it's gonna be whoever's here. Like, they're gonna fuck you up. You better leave them kids alone. And uh, how long ago what happened like whenever that shit happened that night when he was beating his wife? So I was like a day or two after, maybe.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah, it was no, it was like a couple weeks after. It was like two weeks after. Two weeks after when he was beating his dog, and then it was that, and then fucking keep in mind this dude's been beating his dog and shit, you know what I'm saying? That was a fucking big ass chain. It was a three-year-old pit bull. It was a girl, bro.
SPEAKER_00It was a fucking she was a big dog, but she was beautiful, man.
SPEAKER_01It was the most sweetest dog. Sweetest dog.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it would run up to our fucking house all the time.
SPEAKER_01I didn't even go anywhere else outside the property. Like it didn't go out in the street and do none of that shit. And then fucking I remember the day that we finally fully confronted him. I remember me, you, they I mean I had to go to the store next to Subway to go get Dave Beer. And also, me and him are the fucking some pills.
SPEAKER_00Everybody was drinking.
SPEAKER_01I was fucking I was like, well, I don't know what the fuck we had, but I remember Dave Moonshine. Yeah, I was drinking moonshine. No, no, no, no, no, no. It wasn't moonshine, it was fucking these fucking pills that he gave us. And this nigga was like, They, well, take this shit. Alright. No, it's like, alright. It's like fucking. I didn't at the time, mind you, this is at the time I don't be doing none of this shit no more. It's like when I was at that age, I didn't give a fuck. My life was like far away in the box. Like I didn't give a fuck. So I'm doing this shit, and we on the porch, we drinking these beers, and then fucking we see Terry beating on his wife. All we hear is just fucking bitch! And we hear this guy screaming. Yeah, in the middle of the fucking back of the trailer park.
SPEAKER_00And like I said, keep in mind, we all been drinking, they all fucked up. I probably, me being young, I had like a beer or two. You know what I mean? Me, you know, when he was younger. I was up in the angle. They was fucked up. Like they was drinking all types of shit. And then my other neighbor, Jared, at the time, man. No, he wasn't no no, he wasn't there. No, no, no, he wasn't there. He was there before he kept memory and then he came after.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, that's what I was saying. Like, I wasn't there when he was oh yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00But he kept before he was coming over, him and my stepdad kept taking hella shots and moonshine. Yeah, that's that's all I was saying.
SPEAKER_01But I remember when we all went on down the stairs and then we walked down and we went and he bring, he's like, V bring case, and then fucking we went down to fucking behind. Yeah, because he was beating on his wife.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, then I remember we went over and then fucking Dave was like, Why are you beating up on your girl? See, my stepdad, we we all had it planned, like we wanted to put hands on him, you know what I'm saying? Like, we wanted to hit him, but I think we tried to knife wasn't even we was trying to avoid it for the long time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think like the whole thing too is it's like we always at least try to give him an option like dude. It's like even though, yeah, we used to be on some fuck shit.
SPEAKER_00But we always try to give him an option for sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because it's like we're not, it's not everyone's prone to violence. Like, like I was saying at a previous podcast, violence is the language of the unheard. And in this case, this nigga was not listening. So I found a language that he listened to.
SPEAKER_00And then it's like we walk up on him, he's been my stepdad's like, bro, Terry, what are you doing? Like, quit beating on your old lady. He was like, Here, like, take a beer, drink a beer, chill out, and leave her alone. He screams, fuck you, Dave, and he shoves my stepdad. My stepdad like flies like fucking five feet back. Keep in mind, I also forgot to mention that my stepdad had just had like what, three or four hernia's removed? Yeah, he just had his whole stomach. Yep.
SPEAKER_01So he couldn't do anything.
SPEAKER_00So uh he shoves my stepdad. And before I could even do anything, it was me, Blake Veney, my homeboy Blake Shifflet was there, my stepdad, and my little brother. Before I could even do anything, Veney, Blake Veney had my mom's uh car keys in his hand. Because he was driving the car at the time too. Well, he had the car keys in his hand. I swear to you, he threw the keys up in there, took off running towards Terry, took off running towards him. He grabbed him by the shirt, slammed him to the corner of this brick wall, and by the time he slammed him, the keys hit the fucking ground. And then all I look over, I just see Blake on top of him, just punching him in the jaw. Keep in mind he broke his jaw, broke his nose, all this shit afterwards. You know what I'm saying? Like the dude had to go to the hospital. He told us, he's like, Yeah, I got a broken fucking jaw, broken nose. Like, y'all go, I'm calling the cops on y'all, y'all broke my nose and whatever. Well, he's just on top of him, just punching them in his shit, screaming at him like, motherfucker, like, don't you touch my family, don't you touch my family? He's just punching them in his shit, punching them in this shit. Keep in mind who was there? The preacher?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, preacher. And the preacher tried to pull me off. And I remember right when the preacher touches my shoulders, it's right the whole time, like when he was telling me about like because I didn't remember none of that shit. I just did it. I don't remember. I really do not remember doing it until I I remember the preacher, and I remember this preacher like touching my shoulders, and he was just like, Sir, sir, he's just like, Do you believe in God? I was just like, Yes, sir, but I'm about to send this man to hell. I really said that to a preacher. I was like, I'm about to send this man to hell.
SPEAKER_00And then literally, as he does that, Terry done jumped up and took off running towards the garage. But when he took off running towards the garage, he ran towards me, so I hit him. I popped him in the jaw. And before all that, as he's doing the preacher's like on top of him, like, stop in the name of Jesus. My stepdad done ran up to him, kicked him in the mouth. And my stepdad had like fucking steel-toe boots on, so he ran up to him, kicked him in the mouth, bam, and knocked like three or four of his teeth out. And then my other buddy, Blake Shifflet, he ran over and he kicked him inside the head a couple times. So they was all just kicking him, punching him, saying whatever. Then that's when he jumped up and took off running towards the garage, but he ran towards me, so I thought he was gonna run up on me, so I popped him one time. You know, keep in mind, me being a little smaller, it wasn't nothing crazy, it was just a little sting, so he kind of like he wobbled a little bit, but then he took off running towards the garage. And when he went in the garage, my stepdad chased after him. Well, as they both ran in the garage together, all you hear is a smack. And then my stepdad comes running out the fucking garage holding the side of his head, and blood's fucking spilling out the side of his head. It was like it wasn't even like the red color, it was like what purple, fucking black. This dude done took an axe handle and fucking cracked him upside the head. It was like, damn. And as he's running from hitting my stepdad, I picked up this stick, keep in mind it's a fucking, you know, it's a fucking uh car shot with all types of scrap and shit later. I grabbed a fucking stick, this big ass wooden stick, and as he's running, I whip it at him, like I throw it at him. Well, he tries to duck it, but him ducking led landed his head like right into it, so it cracked him. And he fucking takes off running, and he winds up running into this bathroom. Well, his girlfriend, he's in the bathroom, and his girlfriend's holding a doorway, and it's like fucking four or five of us. We're all sitting there trying to get past, like, motherfucker, we're gonna kill you. I'm fucking we're all spitting at him. Fucking, we're gonna kill you, bro. We're gonna fucking kill you. And then we wind up leaving and shit.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, and I punched a hole in the wall.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he winds up punching because the girl fucking the his chick punched Blake in the balls as he we were defending the bitch, and she turns around and fucking punches him in the balls, like, get away from leaving a little motherfucker. Punches him in the balls, and he had something like he went to go run. He was like, You fucking bitch. He went to go grab her, and I jumped on him, Vivian. I was like, no, don't do it. Fuck it, she ain't worth it, she ain't worth it. And he fucking like throws me off and he runs up to this wall, dude. Solid wall, punches his shit, puts a fucking big ass dent in this wall, bro. And then you want to tell him how the landlord and everybody pulls up.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, so I so after me getting kicked in balls, and like I finally walked back upstairs, and I'm just like cooling down, and I'm just like realizing I'm like, oh shit, ah, you fucked up. I'm not gonna be able to stay here anymore. So I was just waiting and waiting, and then fucking they was just like outside, they didn't even knock on the door, they yelled from outside, and I was just like, oh shit. And I had to walk, and I remember there was like six niggas outside. They had chains, one of them had a gun, and they didn't even like all had a subtle, like he literally had it out like this, like fucking, like it was like you know, it kind of reminded me of Roadhouse, where they're like the the one scene with the like fucking he's going to the fucking mansion and shit. They're like, we all got people here and you you're like if you don't surrender, you're gonna get fucked up. I was like, ah fuck. So I was just like, there ain't no guns in the house. And I was like, Demonite. I was like, because I ain't gonna fight. I ain't if I had access to I was gonna shoot some niggas. I ain't gonna lie. I'm not bragging, I never shot nobody. Not a badass. That would have been some bitch ass nigga shit. But I was ready to go there. It was just that time. It was, bro, because I felt like because I already saw them, I was like, oh, they had shit on me. I was like, what? I'm like, I'm supposed to just get shot and killed. And mind you, I'm fucking, these are all white people in Mill. We're in Elkton. So I'm just like, I'm the only nigga here. So I was like, ah fuck, yeah, these niggas hang me and do whatever to me. So I'm gonna do I was like, fuck. So I'm walking out this house, and then the elder came up to me, he's just like, Well, you know you can't stay here no more. And I was like, why not? I was like, even if I get on the lease, I'll pay. I was like, I've been paying. So I was like, what the fuck? They're like, no, you can come visit though, but you can't stay here overnight. That and that exactly in your voice, and then his wife that was like drunk, she was just like wobbling and fucking, she had like a little fucking drink in her hand. She was just like, Well, you where you're fucking gonna stay tonight. And it's like a fucking stay here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she's talking shit too. Yeah, just talking shit to me.
SPEAKER_01I don't just like, I was like, I don't be, I'm always like, I don't be homeless on the street. I don't be I'm gonna be sleeping on the street. I was like, You have girls here tonight, God bless you. I told her that I looked at her face and said that shit, and she just walked away and she was like, I was like, yeah. I was like, and you know what I did? I slept in the subway's back. I slept in my my work at Subway in the back. I go, yeah, I remember trying to think your mom just gave me some pills. That's what I'm saying, even though your mom, like, she your mom wasn't even that mad. That's the craziest shit. Well your mom knew it was going out. She cheated, she's just glad we didn't kill them. See, that's what I'm saying. She was so she didn't even get mad at me for fighting them. Like, he had she was just like, Wait, I was like, I'm glad you didn't go to jail. I was like, Yeah, me too. So I was just like, I had to go sleep in the bag. And then like I was fucking.
SPEAKER_00He had work the next morning.
SPEAKER_01And then fucking my general manager fucking wakes me up at six o'clock in the fucking morning to do it.
SPEAKER_00Dude, literally is just in the back of in the back of fucking subway. He we literally, I think we just gave you a pillow in a sleeping bag. That's it. He just had a pillow in the sleep, he was just sleeping back then.
SPEAKER_01And I made subs that had sex. I ate in that motherfucker. I ain't gonna fuck.
SPEAKER_00And the general manager he's talking about was one of my mom's best friends at the time, which I don't know if I told you, you know, Donna died. Oh, she died. What? Donna passed away, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Donna died, bro. She had a she had like a heart attack or a stroke. Oh shit. Yeah. Gives cold chills, bro. That like she told me that when I was locked up. And Donna's young, you know what I mean? She just died like last year, bro. Holy shit. She had a stroke or something.
SPEAKER_01And uh she had a stroke. Damn, because she was like, dude, that's all I'm saying. She was always a good woman, bro. She was a chill, bro. The whole time I worked there, like she she used to yell at everyone else. She never yelled. She knew well, ain't no one, she knew I was home. She never gave me a full hard time because she knew my situation, because she knew I was always on the show.
SPEAKER_00She's been there too.
SPEAKER_01Also, because she fucking used to, she was a heroin addict. I remember that too. That's why she didn't give a fuck. But I remember when she fucking saw me out in the back, she was just like, my head banged. She banged the door on my head three times, like boom, boom. And like, because she didn't realize like she thought there was like a box or something there. And I was like, ah, what the fuck? And I was like to her, I was like, hey, stop. And she was like, Wait, what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing here? Yeah, and I was just like, uh, sleep. I was like, I'm sleeping. What are you doing here? And she's like, fucking doing stuff. And I she was like, Why are you sleeping here? I was like, Well, this is what happened. I pretty much told her the situation and like gave her the background, and then she was just looked at me. And mind you, she been to prison before, so it's like she didn't really give a fuck. I was just she didn't give a fuck. She was an honest, she was a good woman. She was just like, Well, you hear it? It was like, well, might as well ask the boy. Well, she's like, Well, you can clock in. And I was like, I was like, God. I had to work from six o'clock in the morning all the way to ten at night. And that was the last day I worked there. Because I remember I had to sneak back home to the spot the next day. And I remember fucking they were in the parking lot. They was like, oh man, boy, we're gonna stab that fucking boy over there. I swear to God, he be here. I don't know, I got something. I got I'm a I'm a good hand. And I can hear in front of the window. I was like, and I was fucking, I was in the other room, and I was like, oh fuck, do you think it's gonna get on my ass, bro? I was like, fuck. I then I was like, man, I that's when I had to leave, and that's when I finally was like, fuck. I went back, fucking, I was hanging out with my friend Moses, and then well, ex-friend, but fucking hanging out with him, and then pretty much after that had it where I went to my mom, I finally went back to my mom for like a singular week, and then I went back to my dad's as new girlfriend spot, and then I went to PA for a week, but pretty much that time of my life, that the whole time I was with you, bro, it was probably one of the hardest times. In turns, but no, no, not in turn. Actually, it was weird. It was better than my home life at home, but it was still a struggle. Yeah, it was still a struggle, bro. It was like I think getting myself into situations I did, and I also, but I think even though we were going through those things, we were still there for each other. Like, cause think about it, bro. You didn't have to give me a place to stay. I mean, I I do appreciate that. I know I never tell you that enough, but I do appreciate you for that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, of course, bro, 100%. We always had each other's backs, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, even when you were staying there, you still looked out, you know what I mean. You still provided, even when you didn't have it, you know what I mean. You still say, yo, I'm I'm getting groceries. Like, nah, bro, you good. We don't need and you would still, you know what I'm saying, help out. Ask, yo, Jenna, my mom, you know what I mean? You need anything, Dave, y'all need anything? Whoop, woop, whatever. You know what I mean? And it's just always been respect. That's the thing. We've always had respect for each other. So it's never been a, you know what I'm saying? It's never been anything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's never been a scoreboard. Like, that's and I think that's why I always appreciate about you. Like, you never held any of that against me. You never been like, oh, you gotta pay me back. Oh, you like I was like, we I mean, well, granted, I did take a charge for you, so I mean, I think like I'm not using that against you because I think you got and that's the thing too, is like even then, like after we left, like we even like we kept on getting into more and more shit, bro. Even then, oh God, God stabbing niggas and everything, bro. Getting the deep. But like I think you now I see you as someone that is. It's a a good father. Someone that's actually willing to accept that they were not always in the right. Someone that actually willing to fucking admit they did something terrible. And also fucking fixed that shit, bro. It's something like I think everyone wants to picture themselves as this perfect person that had no errors and no flaws. Never wrong, was always right. Like me, I was a treacherous fucking person. And that's why I put myself out here. Like this the whole point of me describing my past. That wasn't the glorified. That was terrible. I'm lucky that I never killed or hurt really hurt somebody. I mean, I did, but I fucking it could have been a whole lot worse. Or I could have gone to jail. I could have fucking got myself locked up for the rest of my life. And I'm like I thank God every day that I'm fucking free. That's why I go to the gym. That's why I take pride, and that's why I try to get killed too. Now I'm seeing you trying to get yourself back in the gym. Trying to get right, bro. Trying to get yourself doing things that aren't easy. The things in life that are gonna benefit you the most aren't easy.
SPEAKER_00See, now I'm at a point in life, bro. Like you said, I am a father now, you know. I just came home from jail, got released a couple months ago, whatever. You know, I had a little hiccup, but went went through a couple things, you know what I'm saying? But now I'm grown, you know what I'm saying? Like I see things with a different perspective now. I'm sober now, you know what I mean? Like, I got a beautiful son, you know, beautiful wife. Me and her got me and my girl, we got married and stuff like that, and it's just it's a lot more to life than what I how I used to think and where I was. I was just at a rough spot, you know what I mean? And uh now that I see where I am now, it's just a lot more to life, you know. All I really want to do now is just kick back, bro. I'm gonna work out a little bit.
SPEAKER_01No, I see you. You got like that dad vibe now. Like I think like you like it gave you a sense of easement. I think and purpose. Purpose before because like I think before we lacked purpose. And that wasn't necessarily a thing that that's anything wrong with us. It's something that as men you gotta find. Some men you gotta find from having a child. Some men you gotta go from losing some of that, losing your life. Other things that are trials and tribulations in your life that's gonna haunt you later on. If you don't fucking fix that or you don't try to get a handle on that shit, it's gonna tear you the fuck up. That's why I want people to really try to improve themselves. And it's not something that it's gonna be linear, it's gonna take something a long time to get ahead on it. But I want to say, like, what do you think it's like your final thoughts on how you think people should get across with this podcast? Like, what is your main message to your audience?
SPEAKER_00For real, just I guess look at some of the stories, you know what I mean, that we've been telling.
SPEAKER_01And you know, I'm sure whenever we do another podcast, we'll you know what I'm saying, there'll be some more things because Yeah, I'm about to say it wasn't just that, I was just like the beginning, because it was like a whole stage between when like from him being before he got locked up and like that whole we were like the most wild, honestly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but like I said, just you know, look at our perspective of you know what we went through and then look at us now. Like I said, there'll be plenty of other podcasts for us to speak on that you'll get, you'll understand, but it's just how things used to be and how they are now. You know what I mean? Like for me now, all I want to do is just sit back, work, make money, spend time with my son, the time that I've missed being locked up, getting tattoos. Oh, and shout out to uh Mr. Lucky VA in Harrisonburg, Virginia. Did a nice ass piece on my shoulder, my arm. You know what I'm saying? Great work, great dude, great vibes, great aura, really respectful guy. He'll work with you no matter what your situation is, you know what I'm saying? He just does really good work. He's good for what he was, what what he does. And uh I'm gonna say his Instagram. His Instagram is Mr. Lucky V A. And it's just on uh it's in Harrisonburg, University Boulevard Street. Y'all hit him up, tap in. His name is Nate. You know what I'm saying? If y'all anybody on this podcast decide to go, tell him Caleb sent you. All right. But yeah, it's all it is, bro. Hope you guys enjoyed and hope to talk about you know life and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01More in the process. I'm about to say I appreciate anyone listening so far. I about to say y'all got a good gathering. How me as a host really came from a point where I wasn't always the person I am today.
SPEAKER_00And that was just the beginning.
SPEAKER_01That was just a beginning point of me even having a conscious effort of what my things was going on. That was bad. It took me years of dealing with that to really get a handle of myself. And I'm having a continuous handle of myself. But anyone listening now, I want y'all to have a good rest of your day. Be grateful to be alive because sometimes anything can happen to you, man. Amen. You have a good rest of your day, man. God bless.